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Medical Debt and Racial Justice

Join us for a conversation between Luke Messac and Kenyon Farrow on medical debt and racial justice. This event took place on November 16, 2023. Ruth Wilson Gilmore said, “Debt robs. But debt also disciplines…Today, while the imperial imperatives might be different, the role of debt is the same—to compel consent through the coercion of debt.” One of the major sources of debt is medical costs. In the United States, an estimated 100 million people owe medical debt in some form. Medical debt appears on the credit reports of 43 million Americans, and medical debt collection brought in $1.5 billion in revenue for America’s 7,000 debt collection agencies. Medical debt can be debilitating, resulting in denial of care, lawsuits, seizures of bank accounts, foreclosures, property liens, wage garnishments, and arrests. While medical debt impacts people across race, gender, and class, African Americans and people with low incomes have far more medical debt than other social groups. As emergency physician and historian Luke Messac notes in his new book Your Moneyor Your Life: Debt Collection in American Medicine, “A number of broader social forces have contributed to this transformation of medical debt. These include structural racism, economic inequality, the late-twentieth-century rise of neoliberal ideology, early twenty-first century efforts to organize health care workers, social movements such as Occupy Wall Street, and shifts in health financing and ownership…third-party financing, health insurance reimbursement, social insurance, financialization, and privatization.” This event brings together Messac with Kenyon Farrow, a public health policy and communications expert, to examine how racism and resistance to a strong social welfare state have shaped changes in healthcare and medical debt, and in the process, harm society overall. They will also explore current policy and political efforts around healthcare access and debt erasure, and how confronting medical debt is a racial justice issue. Speakers Kenyon Farrow is a writer, editor, and strategist, whose work has long focused on public health and infectious disease with a focus on racial, gender and economic justice. He is the Vice President of Policy with Point Source Youth, a national organization working to end youth homelessness. He is the former Managing Director of Advocacy and Organizing with PrEP4All, and also served as senior editor of TheBody.com & TheBodyPro.com and U.S. & Global Health Policy Director with Treatment Action Group (TAG). Luke Messac is an emergency physician and a historian. He is an attending physician at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and an Instructor in Emergency Medicine at Harvard Medical School. He received his BA from Harvard University, his MD and PhD from the University of Pennsylvania, and completed residency training in emergency medicine at Brown/Rhode Island Hospital. His research focuses on the history and political economy of health care, as well as on diagnostics for emergency care in resource-limited settings. His work has appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine and online outlets including Jacobin and Current Affairs. His first book, No More to Spend, is a history of medical neglect and exploitation in Malawi. His latest book, Your Money or Your Life: Debt Collection in American Medicine, will be published by Oxford University Press, in November 2023. It tells the story of how the collection of medical debt has become so aggressive, and the impact this is having on Americans’ lives. Twitter: @LukeMessac Get a copy of Dr. Messac’s new book Your Money or Your Life: Debt Collection in American Medicine: https://bookshop.org/a/1039/978019767... Watch the live event recording: https://youtube.com/live/StTxB7D-UEQ Buy books from Haymarket: www.haymarketbooks.org Follow us on Soundcloud: soundcloud.com/haymarketbooks

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***Please note: This discussion was recorded on August 8, 2024.


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Tarik Dobbs (b.1997; Dearborn, MI) is a writer, an artist, and a Poetry Foundation Ruth Lilly & Dorothy Sargent Rosenberg Poetry Fellow. Tarik’s poems appear in the Best New Poets and Best of the Net anthologies, as well as AGNI, Guernica, and Poetry Magazine, among others. Tarik helps run poetry.onl, and served as a guest editor at Mizna: Prose, Poetry, and Art Exploring Arab America as well as Zoeglossia: A Community for Poets with Disabilities. Tarik received an M.F.A. in creative writing from the University of Minnesota, and is currently an M.F.A. fellow in art, theory, practice at Northwestern University.

Julian Randall is a Living Queer Black poet from Chicago. His poetry and essays are published in the New York Times Magazine, POETRY, The Atlantic, and Vibe. He is the recipient of a Pushcart Prize. Julian holds an MFA in Poetry from Ole Miss. His first book, Refuse, won the Cave Canem Poetry Prize and was a finalist for an NAACP Image Award. He was also a contributor to the #1 New York Times-bestseller Black Boy Joy. Julian has previously worked as a youth mentor, teaching writing workshops to children on house arrest. Pilar Ramirez and the Escape from Zafa is his debut children's novel. Follow him on Twitter!

I.S. Jones is an American / Nigerian poet and essayist. She has received support in the form of fellowships, retreats, and residencies from Hedgebrook, Brooklyn Poets, Sewanee’s Writers Conference, Callaloo, Bread Loaf, and The Watering Hole. Her works have appeared or are forthcoming in Guernica, LA Review of Books, The Rumpus, Prairie Schooner, and elsewhere. For the last three years, she served as the Director of the Watershed Reading Series with Art + Literature Laboratory. Her chapbook Spells of My Name (2021) was selected by Newfound for their Emerging Poets Series. I.S. Jones is a 2023 Bread Loaf-Rona Jaffe Scholar. She is currently an instructor with Brooklyn Poets, a reader for Poetry Magazine, and is at work on her debut full-length collection of poems.

Katana Smith is a poet and writer from Aurora, Colorado. Her work has appeared in The Paris Review, AGNI, RHINO poetry, and elsewhere. She is a freelance writer and serves as Artist-in-Residence at Northwestern University. Katana earned her MFA in Creative Writing and MA in English from the Litowitz graduate program at Northwestern University. She is a McNair Scholar, and a graduate of the creative writing program at Knox College. She lives in Chicago.

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***Please note: This discussion was recorded on July 25, 2024.***

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Hannah Proctor holds a Wellcome Trust University Award at the University of Strathclyde in Glasgow. She is the author of two books: Psychologies in Revolution: Alexander Luria's 'Romantic Science' and Soviet Social History (published in the Palgrave Macmillan series 'Mental Health in Historical Perspective' in 2020) and Burnout: The Emotional Experience of Political Defeat (Verso, 2024). She's a member of the editorial collective of Radical Philosophy, is a contributing editor at Parapraxis Mag and is web/reviews editor of History of the Human Sciences.

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***Please note: This discussion was recorded on September 10, 2024.***

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Sarah Jaffe is a Type Media Center Fellow and an independent journalist covering the politics of power, from the workplace to the streets. She is the author of Work Won't Love You Back: How Devotion to Our Jobs Keeps Us Exploited, Exhausted, and Alone and Necessary Trouble: Americans in Revolt. Her work has appeared in the New York Times, the Nation, the Guardian, the Washington Post, the New Republic, the American Prospect, and many other publications. She is the cohost, with Michelle Chen, of Dissent magazine's Belabored podcast, as well as a columnist at The Progressive and New Labor Forum.

Dania Rajendra has been organizing, strategizing, and writing to knit people together across boundaries, silos, disciplines, and communities for two decades. Currently, she sits on the international advisory board of the Diaspora Alliance and the board of Grassroots Law & Organizing for Workers (GLOW).

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